In Episode 1, Beverley Hatcher-Mbu and special guest Sean Martin McDonald, CEO of FrontlineSMS and co-founder of Digital Public, discuss everything from structural justice to Pokemon Go. They also dive deep into models for data governance, data trusts as a tool for creating equitable systems, next steps, and so much more.
Read the transcript of the episode.
Related links from the conversation:
- Reclaiming Data Trusts
- Streams of Thought, Vol. 3: Cane & Able by Black Thought
- 444 by Jay-Z
- Star Trek (episode referenced in discussion)
Special thanks to Mark Hatcher for our theme music. You can find Mark on social media at @markdhatcher.


